Comments on: Frankie Schaeffer: Are We Really That Unpatriotic? https://www.vulcanhammer.org/2008/03/17/frankie-schaeffer-are-we-really-that-unpatriotic/ The Online Perch of a Real Elitist Snob Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:56:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robin https://www.vulcanhammer.org/2008/03/17/frankie-schaeffer-are-we-really-that-unpatriotic/comment-page-1/#comment-29721 Robin Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:51:57 +0000 http://www.vulcanhammer.org/?p=564#comment-29721 Francis Schaeffer's Christian Manifesto is not "America-bashing" at all. It did not advocate violence, but it did systematically present the history of Christians in a way to show that it is right and the domain of Christians to speak up against evil as defined by the Bible. That includes when lawmakers sanction evil. Because we participate in choosing our leaders, we share responsibility for what they do. I wonder how Frankie drifted so far. Francis Schaeffer’s Christian Manifesto is not “America-bashing” at all. It did not advocate violence, but it did systematically present the history of Christians in a way to show that it is right and the domain of Christians to speak up against evil as defined by the Bible. That includes when lawmakers sanction evil. Because we participate in choosing our leaders, we share responsibility for what they do. I wonder how Frankie drifted so far.

]]> By: me https://www.vulcanhammer.org/2008/03/17/frankie-schaeffer-are-we-really-that-unpatriotic/comment-page-1/#comment-18624 me Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:30:59 +0000 http://www.vulcanhammer.org/?p=564#comment-18624 I'm not sure I'd refer Frankie's treatment of his father's memory as "blasphemy" but it's pretty rough. It's always tricky to properly represent your ancestors' positions you don't agree with. I've had to wrestle with this with my own, especially at <a href="http://www.chet-aero.com" rel="nofollow">chet-aero.com</a>. My procedure is to present what they did in at least a neutral light, make your objections succinct, and move on. I think Sondra's right in that Frankie has gone far beyond that. Fortunately, Francis Schaeffer left a large body of writings with which he can defend himself. What we need to do is to examine his life and actions, compare them with Frankie's, and decide for ourselves. My guess is that Frankie fears the results of that decision more than anything else. I’m not sure I’d refer Frankie’s treatment of his father’s memory as “blasphemy” but it’s pretty rough.

It’s always tricky to properly represent your ancestors’ positions you don’t agree with. I’ve had to wrestle with this with my own, especially at chet-aero.com. My procedure is to present what they did in at least a neutral light, make your objections succinct, and move on.

I think Sondra’s right in that Frankie has gone far beyond that.

Fortunately, Francis Schaeffer left a large body of writings with which he can defend himself. What we need to do is to examine his life and actions, compare them with Frankie’s, and decide for ourselves. My guess is that Frankie fears the results of that decision more than anything else.

]]> By: Sondra https://www.vulcanhammer.org/2008/03/17/frankie-schaeffer-are-we-really-that-unpatriotic/comment-page-1/#comment-18622 Sondra Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:13:45 +0000 http://www.vulcanhammer.org/?p=564#comment-18622 Shame on Frankie Schaeffer for blaspheming his father when he is no longer here to defend himself. Frankie needs serious help and much prayer. May he ask for God's forgiveness in repentance and may he be forgiven. Shame on Frankie Schaeffer for blaspheming his father when he is no longer here to defend himself. Frankie needs serious help and much prayer. May he ask for God’s forgiveness in repentance and may he be forgiven.

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