Is Allah the Same God for Christians and Muslims? It Depends Upon Whom You Ask…

Don’t ask the Muslims in Malaysia:

‘Four Malaysian churches were attacked with firebombs, causing extensive damage to one, as Muslims pledged Friday to prevent Christians from using the word “Allah,” escalating religious tensions in the multiracial country.’

‘Many Malay Muslims, who make up 60 percent of the population, are incensed by a recent High Court decision to overturn a ban on Roman Catholics using “Allah” as a translation for God in the Malay-language edition of their main newspaper, the Herald.

‘The government says Allah, an Arabic word that predates Islam, is exclusive to the faith and by extension to Malays. It refuses to make an exception, even though the Herald’s Malay edition is read only by Christian indigenous tribes in the remote states of Sabah and Sarawak. At Friday prayers at two main mosques in downtown Kuala Lumpur, young worshippers carried banners and gave fiery speeches, vowing to defend Islam. “We will not allow the word Allah to be inscribed in your churches,” one speaker shouted into a loudspeaker at the Kampung Bahru mosque. About 50 other people carried posters reading “Heresy arises from words wrongly used” and “Allah is only for us.” “Islam is above all. Every citizen must respect that,” said Ahmad Johari, who attended prayers at the National Mosque. “I hope the court will understand the feeling of the majority Muslims of Malaysia. We can fight to the death over this issue.”

In this country, it’s “politically correct” to assume that a) both Christians and Muslims worship the same god and b) by extension, it’s permissible to call him by names common to both religions.  This is the line encouraged by CAIR and other groups.  However, I have seen this attacked in Muslim literature as Masonic, not Islamic.  Evidently that, in a roundabout way, is the position of the Muslim protesters in Malaysia.

The court, on a factual basis, is correct.  Christians in Muslim countries (especially Arab ones, but also in places such as Indonesia) routinely refer to God as Allah and this is reflected in Biblical translations.  Conversely all English “interpretations” of the Qur’an before the last century translated the Arabic Allah as “God.”  It was left to Marmaduke Pickthall to transliterate the term “Allah” because, in his opinion, “there is no corresponding word in English.”  Evidently he felt that the Christian and Islamic conceptions of God were so different that different names were necessary.

The insistence on the “two Gods” of Christianity and Islam has been ascribed only to Christian fundamentalists.  (There’s really only one; the serious question is how do we obtain access to him and properly worship him.)  But this idea is mirrored on both sides, and politically correct platitudes only serve to obscure the issue and cloud our understanding of others.

6 thoughts on “Is Allah the Same God for Christians and Muslims? It Depends Upon Whom You Ask…”

  1. I have always thought this was more of a semantic issue than a philosophical/theological one (although it is the latter to a certain extent). Statements made pro or con with any kind of zeal seem to have the character of slogans or rallying cries.

  2. YOU USED TO THINK GOD WHO ALWAYS EXISTED IS INSIDE SPACE. IF GOD IS INSIDE SPACE, THEN SPACE IS ENDLESS AND FAR BIGGER THEN GOD. FAR AWAY FROM SPACE GOD WILL LOOK SMALLER & SMALLER. DEEP INSIDE IN SPACE THERE WILL BE MORE GODS. ISLAM HAS MUCH EVIDENCE & INDICATIONS TO PROVE THE SPACE ITSELF WITH AN UNIQUE ENDLESS GODLY EXISTENCE IS ALLAH. THE DARK SPACE FOR THE UNIVERSES WE HAVE ACTUALLY INSIDE ALLAH. THE REALITY IS OUR UNIVERSES & UNIVERSES OF PARADISES & INFINITY GOD IS SEPARATED BY 7 HEAVENS.

    INFINITY OF ALLAH(GOD) INDICATE IN HIS 99 NAMES ARE>HE IS ONE, HE HAS NO SIZE OR SHAPE, ALL MIGHTY CREATOR OF EVERY THING, NOTHING CREATED HIM, LIMITLESS CAPABILITY, THE BIGGEST, GREATEST & STRONGEST, ALWAYS EXISTED, HE CAN’T BE MEASURE OR DESTROY, ENDLESS CAPABILITY & ENERGY, ALL THE POWER & KNOWLEDGE BELONG TO HIM, NOTHING BEFORE HIM, EVERYTHING HE HAS CREATED INSIDE HIS HAND (NOT A FIGURE) HE NEEDS NOTHING TO CREATE SOMETHING, EVERYTHING BELONG TO HIM = ENDLESS =AN UNIQUE ENDLESS GODLY EXISTENCE.

    IS ALLAH SMALLER THEN INFINITY?

    I AM JUST TELLING YOU NOTHING WILL CHANGE HIS EXISTENCE & GLORY IF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE CRY IN HELL. THOSE PAIN HAS NO MEANING FOR THE ONE WHO ALWAYS EXISTED, EXISTS & GOING TO EXIST FOREVER ALONE. ONE & ALONE GOD IS NOT JUST A BAG OF LOVE. ONE = PARADISE & LOVE & ALONE = HELL & PAIN FOREVER. REMEMBER HOW MUCH SOLE HE HAS CREATED FOR US WHEN IT REQUIRES TO EATING BY KILLING. THE TRUE REALITY IS HE CAN & HE WILL TAKE HUSH REVENGE. DIFFIDENTLY ALLAH EXISTS. SORRY

    STOP THINKING IF THERE IS GOD THEN WHY EVIL, HATRED, KILLINGS & HELL? WHY WAR, POVERTY, RICH AND POOR? WHY TSUNAMI, CYCLONE, EARTHQUAKE ETC? BE HONEST WITH ALLAH. SOME OF US WAS HAPPY AND SAID “GOD IS GREAT” WHEN IT HAPPENED AT KATRINA? DON’T THEY FEEL RELAX WHEN YOU BOMB & KILL INNOCENTS? WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO GOD BECAUSE SUFFERING OF OTHERS SOMETIME MAKES US HAPPY. SO HELL IS WAITING FOR US TO MAKE ALLAH HAPPY! PARADISE IS FOR THEM WHO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & PRAY.ONE ITS LOVE & HELP OTHER. DON’T YOU SEE HOW THEY THINK TALK ABOUT ISLAM.

    As per Quran the universe of paradises exists between first & second heaven far beautiful far bigger then our universe. The elements used in universe of paradises safe, pure and unique enough to make human immortal. The secret behind to think promises by Allah is impossible because, the unique elements that has used to create angels and paradise are not present in our universe. First heaven protect our elements from extreme power of God. Hell is part of his system and Knowledge unavoidable.

    Many centillions years before universe created may be Allah was creating a space large enough for seven heavens that systematically separate all the 99.99% pure, unique, powerful & extremely fast fine particles for angels, paradises & heavens, and only .001% simple waste Elements that created our universes. If there was a master image within Allah to perform all those above works, then I am afraid to say it happened faster then our imagination( SIX DAYS ). STRANGE! OPEN YOUR MIND JUDGE HIM BY HIS KNOWLEDGE.

    Islam Say the person who will get the smallest Paradise will get a Paradise ten times bigger then our earth. Allah says in Quran it is impossible for human knowledge to describe the beauty of paradises. And the distance between each paradise = distance between two star. You can change the direction of your son, moon, river & mountain with your finger. Open your mind and please don’t judge God limitless commitments with your tiny ability. God himself upgrades paradises each year.

    Allah say in Quran if all seas water turn into ink and all the trees turn into pen and all of you start to write even then you will not able to write about the creation of Allah . Our knowledge no where near to God Knowledge not even a small drop of ocean water. Allah says nothing is going to change his glory not even a single person left to pray. Is there someone else? Whatever I have mentioned just to convince you that it is God only can create anything from nothing.

    I believe knowledge of Allah can travel faster then endless speed. That’s why no matter how big our universe is his endless speed of knowledge can read everything YEARS BEFORE CREATIONS. I THINK Space, universe, universes of paradise along with heavens are inside Allah.Space is just an atom for the endless existence of Allah.
    DEFINITELY SUCH ONE GOD EXIST AND TRINITY AND ALL TEMPLES GODS ARE FAKE AND NOT TRUE SO I PRAY AND WISH TO ALMIGHTY ALLAH (GOD) TO EXTEND ONE HELL FOR EVER IF THERE IS NO SUCH HELL EXISTS. SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY WORST THEN ANIMAL. WHY THEY THINK OUR LOVE our PROPHET MOHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM ) CAN HURT THEIR FEELINGS ? I LOVE HIM MORE THEN MY LIFE . HE CAN’T EVEN SAY HIS PARENTS LOVE ONE WILL GO TO HEAVEN OR NOT. THEY SHOULD STUDY ISLAM & PROPHETS. HE DID WHATEVER HE CAN TO SAVE US FROM HELL.

    IS ALLAH SMALLER THEN INFINITY? ANSWER ME NOW .

  3. STOP THINKING IF THERE IS GOD THEN WHY EVIL, HATRED, KILLINGS & HELL? WHY WAR, POVERTY, RICH AND POOR? WHY TSUNAMI, CYCLONE, EARTHQUAKE ETC? BE HONEST WITH ALLAH. SOME OF US WAS HAPPY AND SAID “GOD IS GREAT” WHEN IT HAPPENED AT KATRINA? DON’T THEY FEEL RELAX WHEN THEY BOMB & KILL INNOCENTS? WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO GOD BECAUSE SUFFERING OF OTHERS SOMETIME MAKES US HAPPY . SO HELL IS WAITING FOR US TO MAKE ALLAH HAPPY! PARADISE IS FOR THEM WHO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & PRAY.ONE ITS LOVE & HELP OTHER. DON’T YOU SEE HOW THEY THINK & TALK ABOUT ISLAM.

  4. YOU USED TO THINK ALLAH WHO ALWAYS EXISTED IS INSIDE SPACE. IF ALLAH IS INSIDE SPACE, THEN SPACE IS ENDLESS AND FAR BIGGER THEN ALLAH. AF WI THINK SPACE IS BIGGER THEN ALLAH THEN IT IS A SIN. FAR AWAY FROM SPACE ALLAH WILL LOOK SMALLER & SMALLER. DEEP INSIDE IN SPACE THERE WILL BE MORE GODS. ISLAM HAS MUCH EVIDENCE & INDICATIONS TO PROVE THE SPACE ITSELF WITH AN UNIQUE ENDLESS GODLY EXISTENCE IS ALLAH. THE DARK SPACE FOR THE UNIVERSES WE HAVE ACTUALLY INSIDE ALLAH. THE REALITY IS OUR UNIVERSES & UNIVERSES OF PARADISES & INFINITY GOD IS SEPARATED BY 7 HEAVENS.

    IS ALLAH BIGGER THEN INFINITY?

  5. Well, Faisal, I just came back from visiting a Muslim colleague in the hospital, so your postings are timely.

    First, none of them seem germane to my original subject.

    Second, as far as my thoughts re the infinity of God, and how that impacts the Trinity, you can read these in detail at

    http://www.vulcanhammer.org/my-lord-and-my-god-a-layman-looks-at-the-deity-of-christ-and-the-nature-of-the-godhead/

    I should also direct your attention to my thoughts on eternity, with reference to the Qur’an:

    http://www.vulcanhammer.org/2007/01/26/eternity-is-still-what-matters/

    Third, concerning “blaming God” for the calamities in this world, I am not one of those who blames God. But does not the Qur’an teach that Allah is the creator of evil?

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